Gardner Goldsmith: Memorial Day Myths

Posted on May 30th, 2008 by bile Categories and Tags: Gardner Goldsmith, Thomas DiLorenzo, , , , , , , , , , , ,

http://odeo.com/show/19322633/view

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On Memorial Day, 2008, author and radio host Gardner Goldsmith decided to take a different tack. He delved into the fallacies underlying many American beliefs about the Civil War and WWII

Check it out!

And look for Gardner’s new book, “Live Free or Die” at amazon.com!

On abortion : Response to Gardner Goldsmith

Posted on April 8th, 2008 by bile Categories and Tags: euthanasia, organ transplant, police state, , , , , , , , , , , , , , 4 Comments »

The catalyst of this response can be found on Gardner’s April 1st, 2008 show which can be heard here.

“I believe that if we are going to establish the state and the state is going to have laws that protect our lives against encroachment of others, then we have to apply those laws consistently.”

Let me prefix this all by saying that this argument is aimed at Gardner’s insistence that an embryo should be covered by murder law and that applying the law consistently to a biological human life is superior to applying it with a different measure of consistency.

“Where in the continuum of life, from conception to death, do you decide there is a line of demarcation where the laws don’t apply, where the woman’s so called choice applies.”

Speaking of a zygote: “Is it human? Is it being?”

What traits must something have to in order to be deserving of or having rights? Is being human the measure we do use or should use for protecting those rights?

This question will garner many responses. What will those responses have in common; especially if one can try to take a more comprehensive look at it all? I think likely it will be sentience (as vague as that may be). Abilities such as reasoning, self awareness and the freedom of will. Their source and uniqueness in man are in question, but I do not believe we will argue that those traits are the reason we separate humans from other entities. It’s not because of our genetic makeup, as that alone does not uniquely provide those traits (theoretically.) If we found that some terrestrial or extraterrestrial entity exhibited these abilities, we’d likely extend them the same rights (assuming they are peaceful) as we do our fellow man. This sentiment is portrayed obviously in our fiction and the inverse in our lives. Data, Hugh, Spock, and others are extended rights and those without apparent brain activity are allowed to die without prosecution.

“Where do we come down consistently at when it is acceptable to end the life of a human being and when it is not acceptable to end the life of a human being.”

Given above, it seems inconsistent to apply murder laws to something which very obviously does not possess those traits: a stone, bacterium, a tree, an earthworm, a human zygote, brainless or heavily brain damned human body. Life is inconsistent in ability and justifiably treated differently. What makes the metric “human” for consistency better than that of “consciousness” when “human” isn’t consistent itself and obviously so? I’m not claiming that determining consciousness is always cut and dry. We do, however, have methods to reasonably determine that in our legal system and using consciousness as a metric seems to me to be more consistent with the idea of legal egalitarianism usually advocated in the concept of rule of law. Not to cut laws vertically based on what you are biologically but horizontally as to who you are mentally.

Following the pro-life platform strictly I see a lot of legal problems:

  • Brain dead individuals would be required to be kept on life support.
  • Brainless human bodies and likely individually grown organs would not be possible.
  • If technology allows for transfering human consciousness would the new vessel not have protection under the law?
  • If true synthetic sentient beings are discovered or created they would not be implicitly protected.
  • Any use of fertilized embryos are out of the question. Stem cell research, etc.
  • If embryos fertilized by scientists are not allowed because their destruction is murder what about naturally fertilized embryos which do not implant? Obviously she could have taken drugs but there could have been other factors which were under her control (diet, exercise, etc.) Miscarriages could be viewed in such suspect ways too. Would the government be expected to monitor for such situations and investigate them?
  • If destruction of a blastocyst is murder, the primary component of which are stem cells, would the changing of other cells into embryonic stem cells be restricted too? Or is it only because of the stem cell’s situated in an embryo and their viability in forming a human? Would that conflict with Gardner’s dismissal of viability as a variable for considering law?
  • Rape and incest? Fetus’ found to be physically and/or mentally deformed? To be consistent we’d have to force the women to carry the fetus to full term regardless of its condition or the pregnancy’s cause.
  • What about suicide? Assisted suicide?

Gardner doesn’t indicate which level of government he is referring to during the conversation. Which is responsible for protecting the individual’s right to life? Given the topic was brought up because of Obama I will assume the federal government. If we are keeping with the theme of being consistent then this entire conversation is pointless given the Constitution does not discuss this supposed crime. At the state level I believe the government can both exist to protect the individual’s life and liberty in a consistent manner without defining an individual by their genetic makeup and without “laws controlling woman in many facets of their lives while pregnant.” Law does not need to be so simplistic.

Fed looks to socialists for more ideas to centralize the US economy

Posted on April 1st, 2008 by bile Categories and Tags: Glenn Beck, John Birch Society, Senate, Washington DC, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , 2 Comments »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/…

The US Federal Reserve is examining the Nordic bank nationalisations of the 1990s as a possible interim solution to the US financial crisis.

The Fed has been criticised for its rescue of Bear Stearns, which critics say has degenerated into a taxpayer gift to rich bankers.

A senior official at one of the Scandinavian central banks told The Daily Telegraph that Fed strategists had stepped up contacts to learn how Norway, Sweden and Finland managed their traumatic crisis from 1991 to 1993, which brought the region’s economy to its knees.

It is understood that Fed vice-chairman Don Kohn remains very concerned by the depth of the US crisis and is eyeing the Nordic approach for contingency options.

Scandinavia’s bank rescue proved successful and is now a model for central bankers, unlike Japan’s drawn-out response, where ailing banks were propped up in a half-public limbo for years.

I’m not able to find the clip he used but Gardner Goldsmith on his radio show yesterday but not only did the administration admit it and the Fed is looking into how the Nordic banking nationalization went it admitted to planning to open the floodgates on the money supply as long ago as last spring.

Ron Paul was on the Glenn Beck show tonight (see below) and Beck was in a daze of sorts. If you noticed, this morning some fairly bad news came out about UBS and some other banks. An additional $19b writedown for UBS and their director stepped down. Auto sales dropped. Oil was at new highs. Metals are all down. Etc. And yet the Dow was up almost 400 points. 3.19%. Nasdaq and the S&P 500 even more. And that’s after this news about the Nordic nationalization. Beck says he was never a conspiracy theorist, thought the John Birch Society people were crazy, but as he reads about the Fed, about the 1907 crash, he’s getting very uncomfortable with what finds in the past and the continuation of it in the present. Beck is hardly a real libertarian or gold bug but it’s really great to see someone on in the MSM helping get this info out there.

More on the beef recall situtation

Posted on February 21st, 2008 by bile Categories and Tags: Humane Society, USDA, food, , , , , , , , , ,

http://abclocal.go.com/…

Also Wednesday, the USDA questioned why the Humane Society waited months to inform the authorities about problems at the plant. You can read more about that aspect of the story in the I-Team blog here.

Why did they wait 6 weeks? If they truly cared for the animals I’d expect them to release the info as fast as possible. If they were concerned with the possible tainting of the beef and humans becoming sick I’d also expect them to alert the USDA and media ASAP. Lena Johanson on Gardner Goldsmith’s radio show yesterday said that in fact the Humane Society sat on the info while waiting for more video footage to be taken and that being against industrial farming actively work to increase regulation in hopes of effectively legislating them out of existence. They must have figured the impact of more video was more important than the lives of the cows or the humans eating the meat. That’s assuming they actually believed there was a possible health risk. Seems pretty despicable to me.

Not the blog they refer too also. The author claims the video is the worst they’ve seen in their 25 year career. They must have had a fairly sheltered career. Meet your meat is far worse.

FSP’s Liberty Forum Day Four

Posted on January 7th, 2008 by bile Categories and Tags: Gardner Goldsmith, George Phillies, Glen Jacobs, John Birch Society, Libertarian Party, Nashua, New Hampshire, PorcFest, police state, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,
  • 9:00AM Watched a Libertarian debate featuring: Alden Link, Daniel Imperato, George Phillies, Wayne Allyn Root, and Michael Jingozian. It was moderated by Gardner Goldsmith and former Libertarian presidential candidate Don Gorman. Part 1, Part 2. Link was less enthusiastic than Fred Thompson. He admitted that the only reason for his candidacy was to raise awareness for and push nuclear power. Imperato had a problem understanding that if you place your face so close to the mic that you could kiss it it doesn’t sound good. He’s not even a libertarian. He’s anti non-American. He wants to place fees on everyone else who comes in contact with us from naturalization to exports. Phillies had the most consistent LP platform. He also appears to be the most educated on the issues in general and is very realistic and frank about what he would and could do as president. He also fully admits that’s an incredibly unlikely situation and he’s more interested in making the LP a legit party in the eyes of the general public. Root is a libertarian Republican really but more Republican than libertarian unlike Ron Paul. He’s really got the attitude and money experience that would be nice to see in a LP candidate but his platform isn’t nearly as good as Phillies’. He does have an interesting plan on growing the party which I’d like to see him do regardless of whether he wins the LP candidacy. Jingozian wasn’t very motivated. I didn’t feel that he was putting all that much effort into his candidacy and came across as ignorant often on topics. There were people video recording this but at the time of posting I’ve been unable to find it online.
  • 12:00PM Closing Ceremony. Bob Schultz introduces John McManus of the John Birch Society. He have the speech called What About the Constitution? At around 1:10PM Ron Paul was introduced. He brought Barry Goldwater Jr. with him. The video below isn’t complete but it’s a decent speech.
  • After Paul had left the room people started to leave and xyz and myself decided to head home. We went around to say goodbye to our new acquaintances. Gardner Goldsmith, Mark Edge, etc. Unfortunately some people were busy dealing with Paul so Chris Lawless, Glen Jacobs and a few others were missed. I met some Objectivists during the forum, both who hate and like Paul, who invited me to the Atlas Society’s Summer Seminar. It’s 2 weeks after PorcFest which I’m more interested in attending so I it’s not likely I’ll attend (that and it’s in Oregon and I’m not in agreement with some of the major tenets of Objectivism as far as I currently understand them).
  • We got in the car, went to exit the parking deck and there was a large group of Paul supporters blocking the exit. Seems Dr. Paul was just leaving. We crept through the back of the crowd and headed home. Took about 4 hours.



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