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	<title>Comments on: Service Nation Summit: Day Two</title>
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		<title>By: Service Nation Summit Video Summary &#124; blog of bile</title>
		<link>http://blogofbile.com/2008/09/12/service-nation-summit-day-two/#comment-2766</link>
		<dc:creator>Service Nation Summit Video Summary &#124; blog of bile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sorry about the last few not having notes. Too lazy to watch them. You can find some notes I took during the event here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: laur</title>
		<link>http://blogofbile.com/2008/09/12/service-nation-summit-day-two/#comment-2667</link>
		<dc:creator>laur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bosco

nice. bile actually gave me a copy of samples from "why mommy is..." i havent looked at the second one until now.

apparently, those books (particularly "mommy") is a response to &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Help-Mom-There-Liberals-Under/dp/0976726904" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bosco</p>
<p>nice. bile actually gave me a copy of samples from &#8220;why mommy is&#8230;&#8221; i havent looked at the second one until now.</p>
<p>apparently, those books (particularly &#8220;mommy&#8221;) is a response to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Help-Mom-There-Liberals-Under/dp/0976726904" rel="nofollow">this</a> book.</p>
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		<title>By: bosco</title>
		<link>http://blogofbile.com/2008/09/12/service-nation-summit-day-two/#comment-2666</link>
		<dc:creator>bosco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know bile, you're always suggesting books.  Well I have a suggestion for you.  You should read &lt;a href="http://littledemocrats.net/samples.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, then maybe you would understand the Democrat's position a little more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know bile, you&#8217;re always suggesting books.  Well I have a suggestion for you.  You should read <a href="http://littledemocrats.net/samples.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>, then maybe you would understand the Democrat&#8217;s position a little more.</p>
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		<title>By: bile</title>
		<link>http://blogofbile.com/2008/09/12/service-nation-summit-day-two/#comment-2660</link>
		<dc:creator>bile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Are you trying to say that the productive elements cannot be taxed or checked because they will just find loopholes??&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They can be taxed but should not be. What I'm saying is that taxation is theft and I do not advocate theft. I think individuals should not aggress against one another in order to get what they desire. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;do you honestly think McCain is more qualified to deal with these tax loopholes or even WANTS to?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No. See little difference between McCain and Obama on the issues that truly matter to me. They both advocate the warfare/welfare state, both statists, both have little concern for freedom and allowing individuals to live their lives as they see fit. I didn't say Obama was a Marxist. And yes I'm advocating anarchism. I'm &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism" rel="nofollow"&gt;anarcho-capitalist&lt;/a&gt;. I don't believe &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle" rel="nofollow"&gt;aggression&lt;/a&gt;, theft, fraud, violence are legitimate means to and end. I oppose aggression morally and practically regardless who initiates it, a random street thug or one in a blue uniform calling himself government. I believe that the free market is the only moral way and most efficient way for society to exist.

I blame Haliburton on warfare statist. Neocons going back to to Wilson wanting to spread democracy. Fascists and corporatists who wish to mix corporation and state. The inevitable result of big government. The Democrats AND Republicans are responsible for this. &lt;a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/paul12.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Enron&lt;/a&gt; was the fault regulation, liers, thieves, the government subsidizations.

I suggest you realize there are more philosophies out there than just those proposed by Democrats and Republicans. As it's been said: &lt;a href="http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=500" rel="nofollow"&gt;Two wings of the same bird of prey&lt;/a&gt;. Of all those who ran for president this past year I was a supporter of Ron Paul in the Republican race and Mary Ruwart in the Libertarian. Take a look at what is discussed on LewRockwell.com, Mises.org, campaignforlibery.com, anti-war.com. Read Mary Ruwart's book Healing Our World. Take a listen to FreeTalkLive.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are you trying to say that the productive elements cannot be taxed or checked because they will just find loopholes??</p></blockquote>
<p>They can be taxed but should not be. What I&#8217;m saying is that taxation is theft and I do not advocate theft. I think individuals should not aggress against one another in order to get what they desire. </p>
<blockquote><p>do you honestly think McCain is more qualified to deal with these tax loopholes or even WANTS to?</p></blockquote>
<p>No. See little difference between McCain and Obama on the issues that truly matter to me. They both advocate the warfare/welfare state, both statists, both have little concern for freedom and allowing individuals to live their lives as they see fit. I didn&#8217;t say Obama was a Marxist. And yes I&#8217;m advocating anarchism. I&#8217;m <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism" rel="nofollow">anarcho-capitalist</a>. I don&#8217;t believe <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle" rel="nofollow">aggression</a>, theft, fraud, violence are legitimate means to and end. I oppose aggression morally and practically regardless who initiates it, a random street thug or one in a blue uniform calling himself government. I believe that the free market is the only moral way and most efficient way for society to exist.</p>
<p>I blame Haliburton on warfare statist. Neocons going back to to Wilson wanting to spread democracy. Fascists and corporatists who wish to mix corporation and state. The inevitable result of big government. The Democrats AND Republicans are responsible for this. <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/paul12.html" rel="nofollow">Enron</a> was the fault regulation, liers, thieves, the government subsidizations.</p>
<p>I suggest you realize there are more philosophies out there than just those proposed by Democrats and Republicans. As it&#8217;s been said: <a href="http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=500" rel="nofollow">Two wings of the same bird of prey</a>. Of all those who ran for president this past year I was a supporter of Ron Paul in the Republican race and Mary Ruwart in the Libertarian. Take a look at what is discussed on LewRockwell.com, Mises.org, campaignforlibery.com, anti-war.com. Read Mary Ruwart&#8217;s book Healing Our World. Take a listen to FreeTalkLive.com.</p>
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		<title>By: LYCEJ08</title>
		<link>http://blogofbile.com/2008/09/12/service-nation-summit-day-two/#comment-2659</link>
		<dc:creator>LYCEJ08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you trying to say that the productive elements cannot be taxed or checked because they will just find loopholes?? And if you're saying that do you believe that is the way it should be? Lastly, if you don't think that's the way it should be (and I hope you don't) do you honestly think McCain is more qualified to deal with these tax loopholes or even WANTS to? If Obama is a Marxist then I say those ideals are Anarchist. Absence of state, removal of checks that keep those who are "productive elements" from negatively impacting the country is what you're talking about. You blame Haliburton on Dems??lol. Let's just dismiss the fact that Bush's VP used to run the company. I guess Enron was the Dems fault as well. &lt;a href="http://clashorama.com/index.php?id=192" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://clashorama.com/index.php?id=192 &lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you trying to say that the productive elements cannot be taxed or checked because they will just find loopholes?? And if you&#8217;re saying that do you believe that is the way it should be? Lastly, if you don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the way it should be (and I hope you don&#8217;t) do you honestly think McCain is more qualified to deal with these tax loopholes or even WANTS to? If Obama is a Marxist then I say those ideals are Anarchist. Absence of state, removal of checks that keep those who are &#8220;productive elements&#8221; from negatively impacting the country is what you&#8217;re talking about. You blame Haliburton on Dems??lol. Let&#8217;s just dismiss the fact that Bush&#8217;s VP used to run the company. I guess Enron was the Dems fault as well. <a href="http://clashorama.com/index.php?id=192" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://clashorama.com/index.php?id=192" rel="nofollow">http://clashorama.com/index.php?id=192</a></p>
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		<title>By: bile</title>
		<link>http://blogofbile.com/2008/09/12/service-nation-summit-day-two/#comment-2651</link>
		<dc:creator>bile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I get the chance. I may have just given up the opportunity to talk with Senator Hatch.</description>
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		<title>By: laur</title>
		<link>http://blogofbile.com/2008/09/12/service-nation-summit-day-two/#comment-2650</link>
		<dc:creator>laur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bile, I sincerely hope you ask serious questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bile, I sincerely hope you ask serious questions.</p>
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		<title>By: chuckv</title>
		<link>http://blogofbile.com/2008/09/12/service-nation-summit-day-two/#comment-2648</link>
		<dc:creator>chuckv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“We are not here as Republicans, Democrats, &lt;b&gt;libertarians&lt;/b&gt;, socialists or Green party members. We are here as Americans.”

They let libertarians in?  Where were Bob Barr and Ron Paul?

Being a citizen of the United States is the highest reward.

More statist propaganda trying to convince people that they don't have rights, only what the state is kind enough to let them have.  Living (somewhat, kinda) free isn't a reward, it's a right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We are not here as Republicans, Democrats, <b>libertarians</b>, socialists or Green party members. We are here as Americans.”</p>
<p>They let libertarians in?  Where were Bob Barr and Ron Paul?</p>
<p>Being a citizen of the United States is the highest reward.</p>
<p>More statist propaganda trying to convince people that they don&#8217;t have rights, only what the state is kind enough to let them have.  Living (somewhat, kinda) free isn&#8217;t a reward, it&#8217;s a right.</p>
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