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Sam of OTN interviews fellow court attendees, is harassed by thugs for doing so

Posted on July 23rd, 2008 by bile Tags: blue light gang, court, Obscured Truth Network, thugs

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10 Responses to “Sam of OTN interviews fellow court attendees, is harassed by thugs for doing so”

  1. bosco Says:
    July 23rd, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    Sam did an OK job of listening, which is kind of surprising for an anarchist.  Still I think he’ll come across to most as some sort of weirdo bookworm.

  2. bile Says:
    July 24th, 2008 at 1:03 am

    Sam did an OK job of listening, which is kind of surprising for an anarchist.

    What does political beliefs have to do with one’s ability to interview?

    A weirdo book worm? I think when you are in a court where most people are being screwed over by a gang of thugs… anyone who sounds like they know what they are talking about and not part of the gang is not seen negatively. These people in the video had no problem opening up and were receptive to what he was saying even if they didn’t quite get it. At least he tried to explain himself without being an asshole. Most people I know respect an understanding for the cryptic legal system (just as so many appreciate those who know multiple languages or have PHDs.)

  3. laur Says:
    July 24th, 2008 at 6:19 am

    Sam did an OK job of listening, which is kind of surprising for an anarchist.

    can you explain that statement?

  4. laur Says:
    July 24th, 2008 at 6:38 am

    bosco, nevermind explaining what you meant:

    that homeless guy did an OK job of not raping me, which is kind of surprising for a black dude.

    (i got it)

  5. bosco Says:
    July 24th, 2008 at 8:40 am

    @bile
    What does political beliefs have to do with one’s ability to interview?

    Everything apparently.  There are mannerisms that people detect which seem to be strongly linked to ones political views.  It’s obvious to the layman who watches and reads enough of this stuff.

    @xyz
    that homeless guy did an OK job of not raping me, which is kind of surprising for a black dude.

    Thank you for illustrating my point xyz.  Constantly talking about violence, racism and rape in an inflammatory manner is one of those mannerisms.  You know the Nazis had little pieces of flair they made the Jews wear.

  6. bile Says:
    July 24th, 2008 at 10:39 am

    I fail to see the connection. I know a few dozen anarchists and they all have very different mannerism. You love to generalize and make shallow comparisons.

    How do you quantify the supposed connection between mannerisms with political views? Could it be that peoples mannerisms arise from how they are treated as a result of their views? Or that aggressive mannerisms are more obvious in political and religious spheres because of the hotness of the topic whereas a meathead who’s smashing cans on his head is expected and normal? How is the ability to hold a camera and perform an interview a mannerism in the first place? A self absorbed valley girl can still listen.

  7. bosco Says:
    July 24th, 2008 at 11:15 am

    I recognize that you are way too close to me to be able to view my observations as objective. It’s also possible that you are way to close to the phenomenon of which I am writing to be able to see it. That doesn’t change the fact that it exists. People are turned off by the typical mannerisms of people with radical political views, and yes they do have typical mannerisms. It’s a stereotype and a generalization and for many it is supported by personal anecdotal evidence.

    Could it be that peoples mannerisms arise from how they are treated as a result of their views?

    I certainly think so.  Actually I’d say this is the largest contributing factor.

    Or that aggressive mannerisms are more obvious in political and religious spheres because of the hotness of the topic whereas a meathead who’s smashing cans on his head is expected and normal?

    Aggressive mannerisms are more prominent in political and religious spheres because of the emotions tied to the topic.  You are correct.  The last part about meatheads reminds me of high-school-esque angry young revolutionary banter.

    It’s also possible that people have personality quirks or a lack of socialization that contribute to them adopting a certain political view and that is why we see certain mannerisms with certain political views.  I don’t think this contributes as much as the first factor, but it could certainly play a part.

    How is the ability to hold a camera and perform an interview a mannerism in the first place?

    Charisma is complicated and many factors contribute to it.  This includes how you act.  Your personality plays a huge role in how you perform an interview.  I’m don’t really want to get mired down in a semantics argument, but perhaps it’s inevitable.

  8. bile Says:
    July 24th, 2008 at 11:43 am

    It’s a stereotype and a generalization and for many it is supported by personal anecdotal evidence.

    It’s not a stereotype of the average person but of political/philosophic individuals. Most people don’t know what the hell a libertarian is.

    If you look at the personalities of anarchists and libertarians throughout time they exhibited huge ranges of personalities. Your comment sounds little more then that of an ignorant outsider. Coming from the anarcho-communist/socialist shouldn’t you be saying you’re surprised he didn’t throw bombs at the court? I’d say that’s the biggest stereotype of an “anarchist.”

  9. bosco Says:
    July 24th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Good point about the bomb-throwing anarchist stereotype.  The stereotype I have in my head of an anarchist is different from that and it comes from my interactions with you, the people at wooden shoe books and the people I chat with online.  I think the stereotype comes from being a little bit closer to the anarchists than the average person.  Because of that, I was surprised at his ability to listen.

  10. bile Says:
    July 24th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    The bomb throwers is the worst one. The reason it exists is because of the MSM and early 1900’s retards who had problems with authority. Which brings me to the point I’ve wanted to be making. Spreading of more stereotypes, not simply using them in jest, is not helpful to our cause. It’s difficult enough to educate people without having to also deeducate them about the meanings of words and what people of those beliefs are like.

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