New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer under investigation for meeting with a prostitute
Posted on March 10th, 2008 by bile Categories and Tags: New York, police state, CNN, Constitution, crime, Eliot Spitzer, FBI, federal government, freedom, fucking retarded, liberty, New York, politics, privacy, prohibition, The New York Times, Washington, Washington hotel, wiretap, your rightsNew York Gov. Eliot Spitzer is under investigation for allegedly meeting with a prostitute in a Washington hotel, two sources with knowledge of the investigation tell CNN. One of the sources said Spitzer is identified in a criminal complaint as “Client-9,” and that Spitzer’s alleged involvement was caught on a federal wiretap.
The criminal complaint involved an alleged high-end prostitution ring run out of New York. Four individuals were charged last week with allegedly running it.
Prosecutors say the ring provided prostitutes costing as much as $3,100 an hour. The criminal complaint did not name any customers, but authorities did intercept text messages, e-mails and telephone calls.
Spitzer on Monday said he “acted in way that violates his obligation to his family,” without elaborating or taking questions.
His statement came hours after the New York Times reported he told senior administration officials he had been involved in a prostitution ring.
While I love seeing statist like Spitzer getting his this is just ridiculous. 1) Who the hell cares about his infidelity? 2) Why do we continue this retarded prohibition on individuals exchanging money for sex? 3) Why the hell is the federal government wiretapping people who are suspect of requesting or providing sex for money? I sortof understand 1 and 2 but no one in the media is making any sortof noise about 2 & 3. There are all kinds of property rights issues and Constitutional questions here that no one is bringing up outside the libertarian and civil liberty news circles. I don’t think much needs to be said really. [insert your typical anti-prostitution prohibition and pro privacy / 4th Amendment argument here]. Aren’t they supposed to be busy spying on Americans speaking with foreigners or something?
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March 11th, 2008 at 9:05 am
1 - People tend to get pissed off at hypocrites, especially those in public office, teaching positions, clergy, etc. Right or wrong, they are held to a higher standard. You could make the argument that politicians represent their people, a stain on them reflects badly on their constituents. I would also question whether he used his position as governor to engage in these activities, or at the very least did so with government resources.
2 - Meh, in part because of our puritan history. There’s some women’s rights (on both side of the argument) and general community health concerns wrapped up in it to. Oh, and I’d guess religion too. I lean towards making it legal, but am no where near motivated to convince the zealots of this. Good luck.
3 - Probably to figure out exactly how and why Spitzer was moving money around, hidden from the IRS. I believe this is how everything got kicked off. Though according to the articles I’ve read, it sounds as if the wiretapping was only used to implicate him in the prostitution ring, not the funny money movement.
I’ve gone an entire three paragraphs without asking a question, so here it is: do you believe a wiretap is ever warranted? If so, when?
March 11th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
In the least the federal government can obey the 4th amendment. There should be reasonable belief that such an action will result in the gathering of evidence for a crime already committed, a warrant obtained (and not NSLs) and presented to appropriate parties. Since probably >99% of federal crimes are unconstitutional and of those that are the ones related to coining money and postal roads are completely bogus and probably a good number of those regarding treason… I see no real need for the federal government to do such a thing.
Ideally your contract with the communications company would clearly layout all situations where your communiques could be purposelessly intercepted. They would likely want to protect themselves and their customers from association with possible criminals so they would include clauses where they would agree to work with certain recognized insurance, defense/protection, and arbitration companies.
1) I realize that… but like the puppy shit it seems completely fucked up that the story about 5 US soldiers being blown up in Iraq is relegated to a second tier story because of some guy fucking an expensive whore.
2) I disagree. How can one claim "puritan history" when the percentage of individuals in any way shape or form related to those people or similar people are a very minor section of our population? Lots of States outlaw prostitution around the globe. I also can’t understand how someone could "lean" towards legalization. How does one justify prohibition of consenting individuals performing any act let alone sex? Why is prohibition of prostitution any different than drugs, abortion or trans fat?
3) Actually it seems to be because he arranged to have a hooker brought from NYC to DC. Interstate commerce bullshit…. even though how could that be commerce if it’s illegal? If he only paid the women in precious metals he wouldn’t have had this problem.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
I shall pay you in Antimony. I have deposited 0.89 metric tons of it in your trunk.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
2 - Easy, the puritans had a part in setting our country’s initial conditions. Are these conditions still in play today? I can’t say directly, but it sure feels as if their spirit lives on with respect to our sex, alcohol and drug laws.
On to "leaning". In each of your examples I have given weight to personal freedoms as well as the greater implications of said actions. These are not limited to just the individuals involved. I know, right, who am I to do this.
3 - Nah, he should have paid with Flooz.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Oh crap, I just broke bosco’s blog of bile the dice game edition rules. Here you go. Fixed.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
It’s OK, you’re always allowed to contribute more, we’ll just have to make a special table for you in the "enhanced edition". I also think we should start using 11 sided dice.
I think the perceived link between alcohol, sex and crime is what the puritans left us with. It’s that link that gets us.