Comments on: UK ERs: Get treated in 4 hours… or not http://blogofbile.com/2008/02/18/uk-ers-get-treated-in-4-hours-or-not/ from the bowels of the mind Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:06:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: bile http://blogofbile.com/2008/02/18/uk-ers-get-treated-in-4-hours-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1450 bile Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:40:34 +0000 http://www.landofbile.com/blog/2008/02/18/uk-ers-get-treated-in-4-hours-or-not/#comment-1450 Nice to see the NYT pick up something like that. Because of assholes like Michael Moore too large a percentage of the US think the socialist systems are "free" and faultless and magical. Now if more economists and Ron Paul's came out and explained to people that such systems don't fail because of bad management but because they simply can not survive. They are economically infeasible and destined to collapse. Nice to see the NYT pick up something like that. Because of assholes like Michael Moore too large a percentage of the US think the socialist systems are "free" and faultless and magical. Now if more economists and Ron Paul’s came out and explained to people that such systems don’t fail because of bad management but because they simply can not survive. They are economically infeasible and destined to collapse.

]]> By: beetlbumjl http://blogofbile.com/2008/02/18/uk-ers-get-treated-in-4-hours-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1449 beetlbumjl Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:15:30 +0000 http://www.landofbile.com/blog/2008/02/18/uk-ers-get-treated-in-4-hours-or-not/#comment-1449 <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/world/europe/21britain.html" rel="nofollow">Use of Private Care Tests British Health System</a> Use of Private Care Tests British Health System

]]> By: bosco http://blogofbile.com/2008/02/18/uk-ers-get-treated-in-4-hours-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1446 bosco Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:10:06 +0000 http://www.landofbile.com/blog/2008/02/18/uk-ers-get-treated-in-4-hours-or-not/#comment-1446 <em>I swear to god if I had a nickel for every time you mentioned scarcity there would no longer be a scarcity of nickels in my life.</em> Also for the record it took me approximately 40 minutes in the car to come up with this joke,  I've been waiting for you to mention scarcity again so I can use it and I re-looked-up the economic term scarcity on wikipedia before posting this so that my usage would be cromulent. I swear to god if I had a nickel for every time you mentioned scarcity there would no longer be a scarcity of nickels in my life.

Also for the record it took me approximately 40 minutes in the car to come up with this joke,  I’ve been waiting for you to mention scarcity again so I can use it and I re-looked-up the economic term scarcity on wikipedia before posting this so that my usage would be cromulent.

]]> By: bile http://blogofbile.com/2008/02/18/uk-ers-get-treated-in-4-hours-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1447 bile Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:19:51 +0000 http://www.landofbile.com/blog/2008/02/18/uk-ers-get-treated-in-4-hours-or-not/#comment-1447 No we aren't. And who's system is moving towards who's? Our ERs must serve even person who comes in regardless of ability to pay. As a result of our labeling of people as "illegal immigrants", mixed with the governments other meddling in the healthcare system including artificially increasing scarcity, "illegals" are using ERs as general practioners as are other poorer folks who can't afford healthcare thus clogging the pipes. If we didn't have.such a socialistic system charitys would be able to suvive in the market again and releave the hospitals of the current burden. When the government is the source of such a large percentage of the healthcare dollars spent and regulates as it does I don't want to hear anyone claim we have anything close to a free healthcare market when comparing to other socialist systems. No we aren’t. And who’s system is moving towards who’s? Our ERs must serve even person who comes in regardless of ability to pay. As a result of our labeling of people as “illegal immigrants”, mixed with the governments other meddling in the healthcare system including artificially increasing scarcity, “illegals” are using ERs as general practioners as are other poorer folks who can’t afford healthcare thus clogging the pipes. If we didn’t have.such a socialistic system charitys would be able to suvive in the market again and releave the hospitals of the current burden. When the government is the source of such a large percentage of the healthcare dollars spent and regulates as it does I don’t want to hear anyone claim we have anything close to a free healthcare market when comparing to other socialist systems.

]]> By: beetlbumjl http://blogofbile.com/2008/02/18/uk-ers-get-treated-in-4-hours-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1448 beetlbumjl Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:41:53 +0000 http://www.landofbile.com/blog/2008/02/18/uk-ers-get-treated-in-4-hours-or-not/#comment-1448 From <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15817906/" rel="nofollow">MSNBC</a>: <blockquote>Across the country, the average emergency room wait time is now 222 minutes — that's 3 hours, 42 minutes. <p>Hospitals in Arizona (4 hours, 57 minutes), Maryland (4 hours, 7 minutes), Utah (4 hours, 5 minutes), New York (3 hours, 58 minutes), and Florida (3 hours, 57 minutes) are among the worst, with wait times near or exceeding four hours.</p> </blockquote> So are we doing any better?  I don't know, but I would agree with you that our system probably has a better chance at actually improving than the socialized counterpart. From MSNBC:

Across the country, the average emergency room wait time is now 222 minutes — that’s 3 hours, 42 minutes.

Hospitals in Arizona (4 hours, 57 minutes), Maryland (4 hours, 7 minutes), Utah (4 hours, 5 minutes), New York (3 hours, 58 minutes), and Florida (3 hours, 57 minutes) are among the worst, with wait times near or exceeding four hours.

So are we doing any better?  I don’t know, but I would agree with you that our system probably has a better chance at actually improving than the socialized counterpart.

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